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post #71 of 85 (permalink) Old 04-10-2019, 10:26 AM
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Well I, for one, would like to thank you Philster for your efforts as it settles the point in my mind as to where they got to with the QV concept. Cheers.
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lol, don't take it so seriously .... doesn't suit your avatar as this is the internet its simply a discussion old fruit, nothing more.

noted on your comments but a gt3 spec car and or f1 car have absolutely zero in common with this exercise (apart from having holes) so i really wouldn't reference those against this lol. seeing its a purely cosmetic exercise and as such wont have even been near a wind tunnel development - as that's the expensive bit - you dont need to play aerodynamicist to draw a fair assumption about drag

lots of people like big wings that do not much in particular apart from slow their car down, good luck to them. you pay your money you take your choice....
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Edit and note: Speed is straight-line speed -- not lap times -- in these discussions.


GT3 cars are often slower than their street counterparts, because they cap the power and add downforce via wings, dive planes and other bits. Downforce rarely comes free of charge (it almost always costs speed).

F1 cars can sometimes find downforce that is not at the cost of speed, because of rake that vanished under speed, flows that attach and break at different speeds, blown wings working at certain speeds, and countless other tricks that look like ass but work. If you find downforce at no cost to speed, you are an F1 engineering god.

Any discussion of aero usually runs counter to what the eye sees, and sometime what the eye can't see, such as the fast moving air over a smooth undercarriage, which is probably the most significant form of minimally disruptive downforce.

Also, sometimes you just throw away 5-8 mph on a straight, because the ROI of of a bunch of clunky looking aero bits provide faster lap times, because more time is gained by braking late and carrying speed through corners.

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I would buy every one of those pieces right now if they were available. The front end especially of a 4C needs more aggression, a bit too cutesy in stock form.
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Here's the Alfa Romeo 4C Quadrifoglio that never was
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lol.

Yes, we know. We heard directly from Alfa Romeo.

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I would buy every one of those pieces right now if they were available. The front end especially of a 4C needs more aggression, a bit too cutesy in stock form.
You can, sort of. The nose looks very similar to the Zender part, Pogea is doing a small run on the bonnet (hood), the rear spoiler is similar to the Novitec one. That leaves the side sills and rear diffuser. Go Pogea or Zender and the front splitter, Koshi. Not exactly the same but close but I can think of much better ways of spending money on my 4C.
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lol.

Yes, we know. We heard directly from Alfa Romeo.

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Hilariously, your post was almost the same time and wording as what's in that article. Sure you don't write for Jalopnik on the side?

Dateline 4C-Forums.com, 7:18 yesterday:
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From Alfa Marketing!

The 4C Quadrifoglio pair in the ''Heritage HUB'' are only tests of design. The cars were performed by a style team in Turin. They are not for production. They have only changes of cosmetics. Having engine, transmission, mechanicals of typical 4C. The design team was testing a look of more aggression.

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Today, we finally heard back from a spokesperson at Alfa Romeo to confirm just what exactly those cars are doing in FCA’s new heritage facility:

The 4C vehicles pictured inside the new FCA Heritage HUB are simply an exercise in style done by the Alfa Romeo design team at Centro Stile in Turin, Italy. While they appear to be Quadrifoglio editions, they have the same powertrain as a normal 4C and were only meant to showcase what a possible, more aggressive version of the 4C would look like. Simply put, they were never meant to enter production as they were only an exercise in design.

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What are the odds the AR team just sent me the canned response?! /sarcasm Lol.

Ol' Marco just forwarded my email internally. I like a good conspiracy theory though.

I got the Jalopnik treatment?! My goodness, I hate that rag.

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What are the odds the AR team just sent me the canned response?! /sarcasm Lol.

Ol' Marco just forwarded my email internally. I like a good conspiracy theory though.

I got the Jalopnik treatment?! My goodness, I hate that rag.
Honestly, I wondered if they cribbed your response.
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