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I once heard the 4C described as the perfect 3rd car and can certainly appreciate that sentiment because that’s what my 4C coupe is to me. My daily (and bike hauler) is an FJ Cruiser, and my second “car” consists of a BRZ and 11 motorcycles (BRZ going up for sale soon).
I plan on selling my BRZ and dailying the 4C. I'm a madman for sure. :giggle:
 

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Is there anyone who has a 4c and no other car ?
Because some may say they daily the 4c, but if they have another car they also have another option --> Sometimes you may need an "escape" option like when it rains or when you go to a place where is difficult to park or a place with steep ramps etc.
Just having another car as an option (or public transportation options) can change the game.
If the girlfrend / wife has a car then you may also have an option.
 

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I previously had a 1970 ALFA duetto that I bought new. It was my DD for a few years including after I got married and had a baby. In those days I was able to put the baby seat behind the passenger seat and lock it in place. Couldn't get away with that now days ;-) Finally got a sedan when the baby was about 2. The 4C won't work for that of course since there is NO space for a baby seat and you aren't supposed to put a baby in the passenger seat due to the air bag. If you were single though there is more than enough room in the passenger seat and the trunk for a lot of stuff. A couple can also work it out as long as you pack very lightly. I know a few that have gone on long trips with good packing and if necessary, using UPS to forward additional clothing and gear to the destination. Bottom line.....DD can be done with a 4C and several have had a 4C as their only car.
Bottom line....a little extra planning is nothing compared to the fun of driving the 4C.
 

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Hi I'm from the UK, and I'm thinking of getting an Alfa 4C….i've had a manual Nissan 370z GT for the last 6 years and absolutely love that car.

Just a few thoughts/questions if you could indulge me…

Can someone tell me how the Alfa 4C transmission behaves as you approach red line? Will it change up on its own in manual mode (this trait really frustrates me on modern cars, I've driven brand new Audis and Volvos recently and it is infuriating) or do you have full control? Also how does it behave on downshifts, does it change down readily or is it very reluctant to prevent damage if it thinks you are going too quick to change down etc My 370z has rev-matching on down shifts, which works brilliantly, shame Alfa didn't offer a manual but guess that's the way things are going now.

I'm also not a fan of the paddles being attached to the steering wheel, I drove a Giulia through the Alps (Stelvio Pass :)) with its big aluminium paddles on the steering column and really loved it, wished they had done the same on the 4C but it comes down to personal preference I guess.

Along with other car enthusiasts I am really not happy with the way the car industry is going, all SUVs, electric, autonomous driving etc. Along with the 2035 ban on petrol/diesel cars on the horizon in the UK, this is pushing me towards the 4C as a last chance possibly to own a mid-engine, rear wheel drive, carbon fibre sports car. I'm looking for something visceral.

I was thinking about the spider as I love the rear vents etc on the engine cover, reminds me very much of a Ferrari, and you lose that on the coupe with the big sloped rear window. However this will be my only car and hence my daily, also I may not be able to keep it under cover in a garage, it may be exposed to the elements 24/7, is the fabric roof fully waterproof and is it durable enough for this? Doubt I would have the roof off very often, I just prefer the lines of the rear on the Spider. I have read on the forum about some third party retailers offering a hard top for the spider but would not be able to afford this for quite some time (I'm pretty much maxed out getting the car as it is).

Thanks for reading.
Past 370z owner myself(sold my Z days before I got my 4C). Loved the car. Had for car about 4 years and was disappointed Nissan had no plans for making a “390z” or whatever you’d want to call the next generation.

I have a yellow 2014 Stingray corvette, 2019 600 Suzuki, and a 2015 Nissan Titan (the girlfriend has 2 Priuses) . I’ve had my 4C for almost a month now and have yet to drive one of the other vehicles ONCE. So the 4C is definitely my daily. I run through an automatic car wash almost every single day(I’m determined to use the monthly membership) and even do my grocery shopping the in car. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
I enjoy the top off, but I feel like the car actually looks better with it on.
Im 6’1” 230 pounds with big feet so unless I’m able to open up my door all the way, it’s always a pain to get in and out of the car, but I wouldn’t trade it for the world.
Go ahead and buy it, you won’t regret it.
 

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The 4c is like a giant middle finger to the direction of the entire auto industry. You need to drive one. Most of your concerns will disappear.

The top of the spider is great but honestly, you'll have it off more than you know. I understand it'll be outside, but its easy to remove. My daughter (very young, so cut her some slack) laughed when she saw I had the windows up one day. She said she didn't know it had windows ? . Top off and windows down is the only way to enjoy the car! (Go ahead coupe people, come at me)

One of my final license plate choices was VSCERAL. Visceral is the best one word to describe the driving experience. Try it
Fantastic analogy.
 

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Ha ha no I'm still here, thanks to everyone for all the brilliant feedback, really useful. I can only afford one car and wouldn't have access to any others so I would have to use it as a daily drive. It would either be that or not get one at all. I'm happy to compromise on all the 'practical' stuff.

Where in the UK are you? Might be a member nearby who can convince you.
I'm from Birmingham, not sure if there are any willing 4C owners nearby but would love the opportunity to look around one if possible. I've only ever seen one on the road in the UK.

There are only 23 cars currently for sale in the UK at the moment. There is a red spider I'm currently looking at, I have emailed the seller enquiring as to whether the car has had the steering geometry modification but no reply so far. It has the dark finish five-hole alloys which are my favourite, carbon mirrors and rear parking sensors. Only thing I don't like are the red brake callipers, I would prefer yellow but guess that is something I could change at a later date. Also its almost 5 years old so will need the big cam belt service. Does anyone know how often the bolt tightening service needs doing?

The only other thing I'm wrestling with in my head is the fact I only drive a short distance to work and live in the city centre, so the car wouldn't get a good run out until I can take it into the country on my days off, but that's more to do with my personal circumstances than the car.
 

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The bolt tightening is listed as every 12,000 miles or 2 years (whichever comes first).
Many here believe that is overly conservative - probably as long as the car has had one good (proper, full, dealership) tightening, it should be good for longer.

This is not a great city car. Low clearance over bumps, potholes, ramps and speed bumps. You need to open the doors very wide to get in and out (so narrow parking spots are bad). Backing in or out of parking into traffic is frightening. Backing out of angled parking is done using The Force. Parallel parking - well, replacing the sills are something like $6,000 in parts each, so you decide if you want to hit the curbs.

In the right environment, this car can be dailied. Not sure if that describes your situation, though.

Good luck!
 

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Ha ha no I'm still here, thanks to everyone for all the brilliant feedback, really useful. I can only afford one car and wouldn't have access to any others so I would have to use it as a daily drive. It would either be that or not get one at all. I'm happy to compromise on all the 'practical' stuff.



I'm from Birmingham, not sure if there are any willing 4C owners nearby but would love the opportunity to look around one if possible. I've only ever seen one on the road in the UK.

There are only 23 cars currently for sale in the UK at the moment. There is a red spider I'm currently looking at, I have emailed the seller enquiring as to whether the car has had the steering geometry modification but no reply so far. It has the dark finish five-hole alloys which are my favourite, carbon mirrors and rear parking sensors. Only thing I don't like are the red brake callipers, I would prefer yellow but guess that is something I could change at a later date. Also its almost 5 years old so will need the big cam belt service. Does anyone know how often the bolt tightening service needs doing?

The only other thing I'm wrestling with in my head is the fact I only drive a short distance to work and live in the city centre, so the car wouldn't get a good run out until I can take it into the country on my days off, but that's more to do with my personal circumstances than the car.
You could live a normal life or you could buy the 4C, I've driven Porsches, Ferarri, McClaren's, Lambo's, Nissan GTR's and old MG's and I will say this the 4C is not for everyone it is in my mind back to the pure driving pleasure of old bare bones, visceral, and for my money the closest I've driven to a McClaren in how it feels to drive but at a price most can afford. So drive it to work every day, I wish I could and then give it a good old Italian tune on the weekend by opening it up on a back road somewhere, go for coffee in it, take it to a winery, find any excuse I promise you won't be sorry.
 

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The bolt tightening is listed as every 12,000 miles or 2 years (whichever comes first).
Many here believe that is overly conservative - probably as long as the car has had one good (proper, full, dealership) tightening, it should be good for longer.

This is not a great city car. Low clearance over bumps, potholes, ramps and speed bumps. You need to open the doors very wide to get in and out (so narrow parking spots are bad). Backing in or out of parking into traffic is frightening. Backing out of angled parking is done using The Force. Parallel parking - well, replacing the sills are something like $6,000 in parts each, so you decide if you want to hit the curbs.

In the right environment, this car can be dailied. Not sure if that describes your situation, though.

Good luck!
I may add: buying in UK a second hand usable car (like a golf / polo / renault ...) may be much cheaper than repairing a damage on the 4C.
I don't know how much fun would be to drive in UK and looking for a "safe" parking place.
 

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Hi Jimbo,

Re: Hi I'm from the UK, and I'm thinking of getting an Alfa 4C

That's where you're going wrong Mate :p

You see, you don't think about getting a 4C.... you either get them or you don't.

I have a Spider that's my daily driver & I still love it after 44 months and 43,000+ kms...

... But, and it's a big but, I live in a different climate to you...

There will be times in the U.K. where a 4C just will not make a good snow plow, nor will it enjoy lots of traffic jams... But, if you can use public transport when the weather is shitty, or the traffic is bad, then you could probably daily a 4C.

When the weather is great, there is nothing better than taking the roof off your Spider and heading for your favourite section of twisty roads with a few other 4C's to blast along with.

Get a drive of one, you will know straight away if it's the right car for you...

These cars choose their owners, not the other way around.

Cheers,

Alf.
 

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Ha ha no I'm still here, thanks to everyone for all the brilliant feedback, really useful. I can only afford one car and wouldn't have access to any others so I would have to use it as a daily drive. It would either be that or not get one at all. I'm happy to compromise on all the 'practical' stuff.



I'm from Birmingham, not sure if there are any willing 4C owners nearby but would love the opportunity to look around one if possible. I've only ever seen one on the road in the UK.

There are only 23 cars currently for sale in the UK at the moment. There is a red spider I'm currently looking at, I have emailed the seller enquiring as to whether the car has had the steering geometry modification but no reply so far. It has the dark finish five-hole alloys which are my favourite, carbon mirrors and rear parking sensors. Only thing I don't like are the red brake callipers, I would prefer yellow but guess that is something I could change at a later date. Also its almost 5 years old so will need the big cam belt service. Does anyone know how often the bolt tightening service needs doing?

The only other thing I'm wrestling with in my head is the fact I only drive a short distance to work and live in the city centre, so the car wouldn't get a good run out until I can take it into the country on my days off, but that's more to do with my personal circumstances than the car.
Here is the service schedule

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I put a backup camera in mine. That is a must if you have the coupe and must drive in a city and park there. It is also needed when backing out of a perpendicular parking spot to see oncoming traffic from behind you. Many times your car will be hidden from oncoming traffic by higher cars alongside when parked....the backup camera is a real help in that case. The spider is a bit better rear vision but just a little bit better. I drive in cities and frankly it isn't a big deal as long as you watch for speed bumps (take them at an angle). To me the biggest issue is extended driving in very slow rush hour creeping traffic. You have to avoid slipping the clutch so either stop with foot on pedal or clutch engaged and moving. That is to preserve the clutches on any dual clutch trans. You can hit the N button to put the trans in neutral and coast a bit downhill....but that won't work uphill of course. A dual clutch trans doesn't have a torque converter that lets you creep along....it requires the same treatment as an older manual trans. It is also rough on the clutches if you do a lot of backing up a hill. That being said the clutches on the 4C are very long lived so a little care in driving will give them a very long life.
Most of the 4Cs come with backup sensor alarms and they do help but I never felt comfortable relying on them not knowing what exactly they were sensing.....thus the backup camera.
 

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I live in Florida, and daily my 2015 spider everyday, even in "hurricanes" (Google Dorian), for over 2 years now with just one transmission recall under warranty and oil changes. I run Michelins of all kinds and figuring it out which is best all rounder, 18/19. I have 26k+ miles on it and do plan to engineer a robust manual transmission for it, likely out of a GT3 or Lotus Cup when the transmission eventually craps out - before Lamborghini's ISR, it was the fastest production car transmission in history FYI. Such capacity and complexity can't last long given it came from 2012 Italy and not 2000's Germany or 1990's Japan, is my expectation.

Apart from the fact the at times idiot designers didnt frunk it despite everything already in place for one, left empty space behind the tail lights for angling in longer items in the trunk (which is everything), opted for really oddly bad Pirellis as stock, selected a stupid, super vampiric while relatively ineffective A/C, and dared insult the car without a proper, this-millenium DIN/stereo... It has been tied with my favorite daily, a 2012 jeep wrangler rubicon 2-dr manual with mods that I bought new for $23k and sold 88k miles and "adventures" later for $20k. Today, I drive all over with friends that daily an oddly sceptic (except noise/presence) and capsuled Aventador, a surprisingly "inferior-feeling" 488, and a bunch of science-clinical-feeling Mclarens from a 720s to 650s to 570s: the 4c fits in like the best buy of all, plus kids like it as much as the "Lambo". This continues to make me smile that the design was wild enough to brighten the purity of their eyes compared to the more popular with adults Mclarens. Unfortunately, the Ferrari 488 shrinks for whatever odd reason when we all meet up or convoy. We keep trying to convince him for a built 4c or a 430 Scud.

From what I read, if you do your PPI and homework, buy a "known good one" with the a/c dash work done, transmission flaws done, and no leaks in the A-pillar, it is actually a simple, solid material tank. Ignore the weirdos (then again, maybe I'm improbably, obscenely lucky?) that think "water intrusion" or "it's fragile" are issues - don't baby it, drive it into the 100k+ miles club like any other quality machine, just dont skip your service.
The 370z (anything by Nissan since the GTR"35" anyways) doesn't even compare by any measure, despite a reliable/uncompetitive v6. You mentioned "redline", it's unfortunately pathetic in the 4c given a 'busa-type engine wouldve done the car justice. The 1.75L in 4c's can be underwhelming in threshold/lag/rev-ability if you plan to drive it hard... The car is definitely all chassis but thats no bad enough thing, or I'd have gone with the Boxster Spyder/Cayman GT4/Audi R8/Gallardo in manual for relatively the same money back then. Find one with as much carbon options as possible, or go for a full base, as these will run you into fitment headaches I've read, and cost more than one that already has them from factory. Also, it must have race exhaust or straight, because the little four pot sounds delicious! It doesn't have the volume of an LS/V12, but the aggression with a pops and bangs tune will convince you are in a 1980's rally.

Wow... Sorry for the novel, but I do hope something in there helps!
 
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