Define 'interesting' when you know of the 8 new cars they were about to launch, we just saw 2...
There are hardly any Italians left at Alfa, they filled all the top spots with french men, so maybe that will change.And knowing the Italians, the small updates of the Giulia and Stelvio are definitely calculated in that sum.
Still, maybe our prayers will be heard...
How cynical! 😉 We all know (good guess) all of them will be…unless they rebadge the MC20 using that beautiful little V6 before the ‘all electrification’ date.I am curious how many of these cars will be Alfa Romeo and how many will actually be a car from one of Stellantis other companies then rebadged as Alfa Romeo.. It also wasn't clear how many, if any, we will see in the United States..
There goes the neighbourhood, so to speak. 😉 😁 Traditions out the door. Will someone tell ‘em there should be more than only a tarted up 4-dr at the top of the Alfa range, even if it has only two seats. The appearance of new product continues to be glacial. The Tonale and Brennero (or whatever it’ll be called) may be the bread and butter the marque ‘needs’ to survive but please, it doesn’t need to be at the exclusion of an aspirational halo model.There are hardly any Italians left at Alfa, they filled all the top spots with french men, so maybe that will change.
"Starting form 2027, all Alfa Romeo new vehicles would be electric"
Dealer told me he expects a new Alfa Romeo halo car to be coming, but that it will immediately be an variation to the electric MC20.How cynical! 😉 We all know (good guess) all of them will be…unless they rebadge the MC20 using that beautiful little V6 before the ‘all electrification’ date.
The Tonale is definitely coming to the US.
Sharing a platform doesn't have to be that bad, as long as its capable of RWD. Most comes out of the stuff you bold onto it. That's why everybody praises Ms, AMGs, GT3/4s, ...I posted this over on the Giulia forums…
When they announced they were scrapping plans to reintroduce Peugeot to N.America and they would instead focus on Alfa, I rejoiced.
When they announced 10bn Euro investment in each brand to "prove themselves", i rejoiced.
Then it came out that they would be "sharing" platforms with PSA, and the new high-level appointees at Alfa are from PSA. No more rejoicing.
My first instinct is to rejoice at this new news. But i know there will be a "catch", a "caveat", a "compromise" that will disappoint.
That being said. i'll reserve my judgement until they announce the new models (and how much they have in common with Peugeots on sale in Europe).
Does anyone think any of the new models will use the Giorgio platform? if not, which platform(s) would they use?
Well, what's for sure is that Alfa had 200.000 loyal buyers. Marchionne wanted to up that to 400k, but made the cars too expensive for the common Alfa driver. Go on a all models Alfa Romeo forum and you'll find out. But these 'bread and butter' buyers love the driving dynamics, so that's where Alfa has to keep its focus.They're not even making a quad tonale, what good can come from new models. Half of them will be high volume "affordable" options. You'd be surprised at how many people at least in Italy are convinced that Alfa's bread and butter should be front wheel drive hatchbacks
I really, really hope so. It makes logical sense and would be relatively inexpensive to do but the trouble is logic and Alfa haven’t always sat side by side.Dealer told me he expects a new Alfa Romeo halo car to be coming, but that it will immediately be an variation to the electric MC20.
I'm not really sure what the rejoicing and/or gnashing of teeth is really all about with you folk. As a long time (44 years and counting) Alfa owner and multiple type and vintage (1951 Matta to 2019 Stelvio, with 750 and 101 Series Spiders and Alfettas thrown in) I don't see what difference it makes who runs the company or what platform they use. If you like the new Alfas great! If you don't, go buy something else and SHUT UP!
My wife's "new" 2019 Stelvio Ti has about as much "Alfaness" (whatever the hell that is) in common with our our 1957 750 Series Giulietta Spider as a Pier Cub has with a 747 but they are both Alfas and - I hate to admit it - I like the 2 ton beast. Only thing I can find alike other than the logo (which is different but the same) is that they are both red 4 cylinder Alfas. I've never really been drawn to the new Giulia but I loved my Alfetta sedan.
I once had a chance to drive an 8C Competezione and politely declined saying that if I were interested in a new Maserati I'd go buy one. Yes the car is drop dead gorgeous but underneath the good looks is nothing more than a Maserati Coupe with an F136 engine and associated driveline. Hardly the stuff of Alfa legend, or is it?. Same thing with the TZ-3. A Dodge Viper in an Italian suit. Really gang, are these "real" Alfa Romeos? If to you they are, then ACCEPT whatever Alfa turns out and DON'T complain, buy them. Buy lots of them so Alfa survives.
If you want to respond and get me into a real Alfa discussion then I expect you to describe what your proper definition of an Alfa is/should be and why what the French guys are doing is wrong... Otherwise, write what you will and I'll be happy to ignore you and your comments and let the new Alfas speak for themselves.
The first factory building of A.L.F.A. was in the first place property of Società Anonima Italiana Darracq (SAID), founded in 1906 by the French automobile firm of Alexandre Darracq, with some Italian investors.
In the mid-1950s, Alfa Romeo entered into an agreement with Brazil's Matarazzo Group to create a company called Fabral (Fábrica Brasileira de Automóveis Alfa, "the Brazilian Alfa automobile factory") to build the Alfa Romeo 2000 there.
Also, don't forget, Alfa built trucks, buses, airplane engine (some their own, others under license) LCVs and trolleys just to mention a few.