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Thanks for the info. I am not familiar with the suspension blocks. Is that a necessary upgrade?
The car has very little caster which makes the steering quite light and darty. Most cars have far more caster than these which makes for a heavier steering feel and some amount of self-stabilization. If the nervous feeling of the steering makes you uncomfortable or you just don’t like it, get the caster blocks to enable an alignment with more caster.

I have the stock caster assembly but replaced the front and rear bushings. The front bushings improved the steering feel quite a bit and the rear bushings settled the odd nervous oversteer-understeer wobbliness of the rear when the car is driven to near the traction limit.

Probably the most popular non-cosmetic modification does these cars is a tuned ECU as they pick up quite a chunk of power from it. An intake greatly increases turbo noise, an exhaust can chance sound to taste, cosmetic upgrades are popular, and some go down the rabbit hole. You can get the exterior and interior redone in carbon if you like.
 

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I totally agree...I tried to sell my 1966 Porsche 912 on BAT last year and found people with ill spirited negativity making nonconstructive uninformed comments. This kept the price below my reserve. I later sold it above that reserve on Kijiji.
This is the reason these clowns comment negatively about the cars. They want to keep the prices down hopping they can get a bargain.
 

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There's a method to selling on BaT. Being 100% transparent on the car, providing dozens of pictures, including underbody, floorpans etc. and even videos with cold start and that kind of thing and most of all engaging with the crowd, answering all questions and politely but firmly rebutting the asshats.

It's always hit or miss, sometimes there just aren't the right people in the room, metaphorically speaking, and some cars (like modern muscle cars) just don't seem to have a good audience there, but being proactive the way I described helps a lot.
 

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Thanks for the info. I am not familiar with the suspension blocks. Is that a necessary upgrade?
IMO, a great alignment with zero toe and some better tires is ARE necessary upgrades right away. There are going to be people who argue both ways for the steering blocks--some of this is going to depend on where and how you drive. I go out and drive it like I stole it on some fairly rough tarmac on Southern California canyon roads. I was not excited about the bump steer, and how the car would chase pitches and crowns in the road (if you're on smooth tracks, probably not a problem). I installed the Intermediate blocks and I immediately saw a huge difference--at the same time I also added camber shims for a little more negative camber (to offset the cars tendency to understeer--especially under power). The increased caster from the blocks dramatically increases straight line stability (it no longer gets tossed by uneven pavement, and you don't feel bumps tugging at the wheel so much). In theory there may be a little more weight under high cornering loads, but I haven't noticed much difference. If I were to do it over again, the first thing I would do is install Intermediate (or even Race) blocks, then drive it straight to the alignment shop to take out the toe, then get straight to a tire shop to get rid of the Pirellis--they're not good...

Once I did those three things I was just in love with the 4C. It's a shame that media cars weren't given this sort of treatment. Journos would forgive the HVAC controls, and other small quibbles, if the chassis lived up to their expectations--but the simple set-up issues were keeping the car from being all it should. If you love to drive, these are the best modern driver's car you are going to find--you're just going to have to get it sorted out first. Best of luck!
 

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Never list a vehicle on BAT, but continue to exploit it for the car porn that it is.
The Lacey Chabert look alike in your avatar is more arousing than BAT :love:
 

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IMO, a great alignment with zero toe and some better tires is ARE necessary upgrades right away. There are going to be people who argue both ways for the steering blocks--some of this is going to depend on where and how you drive. I go out and drive it like I stole it on some fairly rough tarmac on Southern California canyon roads. I was not excited about the bump steer, and how the car would chase pitches and crowns in the road (if you're on smooth tracks, probably not a problem). I installed the Intermediate blocks and I immediately saw a huge difference--at the same time I also added camber shims for a little more negative camber (to offset the cars tendency to understeer--especially under power). The increased caster from the blocks dramatically increases straight line stability (it no longer gets tossed by uneven pavement, and you don't feel bumps tugging at the wheel so much). In theory there may be a little more weight under high cornering loads, but I haven't noticed much difference. If I were to do it over again, the first thing I would do is install Intermediate (or even Race) blocks, then drive it straight to the alignment shop to take out the toe, then get straight to a tire shop to get rid of the Pirellis--they're not good...

Once I did those three things I was just in love with the 4C. It's a shame that media cars weren't given this sort of treatment. Journos would forgive the HVAC controls, and other small quibbles, if the chassis lived up to their expectations--but the simple set-up issues were keeping the car from being all it should. If you love to drive, these are the best modern driver's car you are going to find--you're just going to have to get it sorted out first. Best of luck!
Thanks for all of the information. This is very helpful.
 

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This is a nice car , im very curious to see what this one goes for ,but its time for us to guess like last time , om going to say :
46,500

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A little price is right theme in the background... nearest contestant without going over.

$47,500 has some nice mods.
 
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