Thanks for taking this on and taking the time to post about it! Mine is coming up and I will definitely be referring to your DIY when I do it.
The intake cam pulley pulled off easily by hand with the bolt removed. You are correct that there are no timing marks. There is a mark on the crank and a slot in the engine casing that I initially thought could be timing marks, but they are not. Once the cam timing tools are installed and the crank timing tool installed, I made the pink mark shown in the photo for ease in lining everything back up. I think the binding I experienced when threading the exhaust side on the initial install is probably normal, I was just extra cautious when bolts did not thread by hand. Simply by loosening the crank timing tool, while still attached, and nudging it in the direction I needed did the trick. A nudge on the cam from the opposing side worked as well when I went through the re-tensioning process, since I was not satisfied with how the cam timing tools were installing after the initial tensioning. As mentioned above, I think this could be a result of me bumping the crank counterclockwise if I passed up my timing mark after rotating the crank 2 revolutions. There are manufacturing tolerances to take into account as well, so I think my experiences are normal.Nice job and great write up! I'm going to need to do the same soon as well and will certainly use this. Did the intake cam pulley (to get access to the water pump) just pull off by hand? Also, I take it there aren't any timing marks. Imagine the tools can only be installed one way, but, seems like it would save some trouble instead of having to slightly rotate things to get the tool bolts in without binding if there were some crank / cam marks. Didn't see reference to them in the manual, but, thought maybe it was an oversight.
Forgot the prices; Timing Belt $75.85, Tensioner $116.00, Water Pump $200.00, Water Pump Seal $5.95, Serpentine Belt $42.20. Again, this is directly from the Dealer write up.cswelch, can you go into some more detail on what parts you needed and which ones you didnt? I'm about to purchase the parts needed and so far i just have the water pump/seal(#60586222) , the cam belt (part #71775896 , the auxiliary belt (part # on alfaworkshop 55245963) , and the cam lock tool. I saw you had purchased several other items and wasnt sure if you needed those or if those were replaced as a preventive routine. Thanks!
Yeah i think the part numbers will differ because the part numbers i'm listing are from the alfaworkshop website in GB. Or will they be the same part numbers?!? Idk lolForgot the prices; Timing Belt $75.85, Tensioner $116.00, Water Pump $200.00, Water Pump Seal $5.95, Serpentine Belt $42.20. Again, this is directly from the Dealer write up.
Labor will take 4.6 hours and cost is $518.74.how much did your dealer quote for labor?
For whatever reason, the same part in Europe has a different part number in the US.Yeah i think the part numbers will differ because the part numbers i'm listing are from the alfaworkshop website in GB. Or will they be the same part numbers?!? Idk lol
See my comments in bold.cswelch, can you go into some more detail on what parts you needed and which ones you didnt? I'm about to purchase the parts needed and so far i just have the water pump/seal(#60586222) , the cam belt (part #71775896 , the auxiliary belt (part # on alfaworkshop 55245963) , and the cam lock tool. I saw you had purchased several other items and wasnt sure if you needed those or if those were replaced as a preventive routine. Thanks!
how much did your dealer quote for labor?
I previously said that labor was $518.75. That was for the timing belt replacement only.how much did your dealer quote for labor?
The 1st time I took it to them I asked for just the timing belt change, labor was $ 518.74. The second time I asked for timing belt, serpentine belt and the water pump. The labor is now $920.00. That is $402.00 increase for the labor. That does any not make sense to me. It sounds like they made a mistake and are charging me twice for the tear down labor.The serpentine belt must come off to do the timing belt. The water pump does not, but at most it adds 30 min to the job. I'm being very generous with that estimate too, it is only two bolts that hold it in place. The intake came pulley has be slid off for access, but it is already loose for the timing belt job. In reality it's like 10 to 15 min to do it once you have the access.
I agree that the water pump should not NEED to be replaced with such low miles. I don't think you will have any issue holding off on it, but in the end it is small gamble. In the end I decided to do it since I did not have any labor expenses.I figure on having to do my timing belt at the end of 2020. Was just wondering last night if a water pump replacement is really necessary if car has less than 5,000 miles on it. I am very familiar with the "while you are in there" mentality from some of my other car repairs, but I figure the savings would not only be the cost of the pump, but also the labor to drain, refill, and bleed the cooling system. The total labor may be 1-2 hours saved by leaving pump in place. Typically water pumps last well over 50,000 miles (with some going double that).
Just had the 5 year service done (9k miles) and the water pump had a small leak. I would just have it replaced for peace of mind.I agree that the water pump should not NEED to be replaced with such low miles. I don't think you will have any issue holding off on it, but in the end it is small gamble. In the end I decided to do it since I did not have any labor expenses.