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Hi all,
I was inspecting the dashboard and may have found some de-lamination. It is slightly but it can only get worse, right? Below is 2 pics. Do you all think that Alfa will replace this? My warranty ends this December.

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Main has the same amount. Has had it since I got the car in Oct '18; and has not increased or shown up any where else. Keeping fingers crossed!
 

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Even though this is a small area, but the fact that it is lifting, Alfa should fix it. I don't see this getting better and will go to the dealership next week to see what they say.
 

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Mine wasn't too bad either (tad worse than yours), so I had it replaced under warranty. That would be my suggestion, have it done before warrenty expires... I didn't even have to fight with the dealership, it is a known problem so they had done a few.
 

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Thanks guys, I will make a trip to the dealership on Monday and report back what they said. I will try to fight for it. I will tell them that even though it is small, I won't want it to get worse and also my factory warranty ends this dec and wanted it to get it fix.

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@alphaboy1 Look at the before and after pics. His finger in the before pic is pressing down the leather, so note how it contours, and in the after pic (red box) it popped up at a common stress point where the dash curves and beds. That piece is no longer adhered to the surface. Sort of a bubble.
 

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Is that the extent of it, or can it get a lot worse? If it doesn't get a lot worse, they couldn't find a better solution to repair it than to replace the entire dash?
Then again, if they did replace it and it included a redesign without that awful airbag cover plate, I would make sure mine delaminated.
 

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If it doesn't get a lot worse, they couldn't find a better solution to repair it than to replace the entire dash?
In the interest of full disclosure my only “expertise” on upholstery repair is watching television shows of custom car builds.

However, I’ve watched enough to know that when covering (or recovering) a dash with leather best custom builders ALWAYS outsource that work to a local upholstery shop because the tools and techniques required to do it properly are so specialized.

On dashes they brush on an adhesive and then use small irons and steam to reactivate it and stretch the leather to match the contours. I doubt it’s a coincidence that our dashes tend to delimitate in places where the leather was stretched the most.

After seeing photos of what the dash board replacement entails that would be my last option due to losing the car for weeks all the things that could go wrong - particularly if it was someone’s first attempt to do one.

But I would of course register the problem with my dealership and Alfa Cares as you intend to do.

Alfa Cares has been good with others whose factory PPF has yellowed. And since PPF removal and replacement is not something dealerships do in-house they’ve cut checks to owners allowing them to take their car elsewhere to have it corrected a third party specialist of their choice.

My concern is that many of the dashboard replacements for minor delaminations could have perhaps been averted in less than an hour by an expert upholsterer using heat to reactivate the adhesive underneath and some steam re-stretch the leather - particularly in a case like yours where the delamination’s just starting.

If so, that would be a huge win for both the owner and Alfa.

Finally, there’s also the matter that even after going through all the hassle of a dashboard replacement there’s no guarantee you won’t experience the same problem with the new dash a few years down the road when the car’s out warranty.

Please keep us posted and good luck!
 

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In the interest of full disclosure my only “expertise” on upholstery repair is watching television shows of custom car builds.

However, I’ve watched enough to know that when covering (or recovering) a dash with leather best custom builders ALWAYS outsource that work to a local upholstery shop because the tools and techniques required to do it properly are so specialized.

On dashes they brush on an adhesive and then use small irons and steam to reactivate it and stretch the leather to match the contours. I doubt it’s a coincidence that our dashes tend to delimitate in places where the leather was stretched the most.

After seeing photos of what the dash board replacement entails that would be my last option due to losing the car for weeks all the things that could go wrong - particularly if it was someone’s first attempt to do one.

But I would of course register the problem with my dealership and Alfa Cares as you intend to do.

Alfa Cares has been good with others whose factory PPF has yellowed. And since PPF removal and replacement is not something dealerships do in-house they’ve cut checks to owners allowing them to take their car elsewhere to have it corrected a third party specialist of their choice.

My concern is that many of the dashboard replacements for minor delaminations could have perhaps been averted in less than an hour by an expert upholsterer using heat to reactivate the adhesive underneath and some steam re-stretch the leather - particularly in a case like yours where the delamination’s just starting.

If so, that would be a huge win for both the owner and Alfa.

Finally, there’s also the matter that even after going through all the hassle of a dashboard replacement there’s no guarantee you won’t experience the same problem with the new dash a few years down the road when the car’s out warranty.

Please keep us posted and good luck!
I just had my dash replaced. It took a week which included bolt tightening and timing belt. Turned out great and it was the dealers first replacement. They said the instructions were easy to follow from Alfa. Also, said it was complicated.
 

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From i have read you might be able to heat up the adhesive with a heat gun or hair dryer and it may adhere again. You would not have to replace the entire piece.
 

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From i have read you might be able to heat up the adhesive with a heat gun or hair dryer and it may adhere again. You would not have to replace the entire piece.
Not something I would try as it could cause more problems or even damage. If it's damaged by you the warranty might not cover it. The dash is not replaced in pieces, rather one complete unit.
 

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My warranty ends in 2 months. I think mine is similar looking to yours and im bringing the car into alfa on Wednesday to have them look at several things.
Ill update you if i have any luck
 

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I contacted Alfa Care on Monday morning and they contacted a dealership on my behalf and said that the dealership will call me to make appointment, that was Monday morning. Its Wed now and still no calls from the Alf dealership. I will wait till tomorrow before calling that dealership. Or should I just call another dealership which is further away ??
 

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My warranty ends in 2 months. I think mine is similar looking to yours and im bringing the car into alfa on Wednesday to have them look at several things.
Ill update you if i have any luck
Tex, let us know what the dealership says about the dashboard.

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Tex, let us know what the dealership says about the dashboard.

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I just dropped it off this morning, the manager took a peak at it while I was there and he didn't say much, but i will update you when i hear something.

My concern is mine looks really similar to yours. By them pulling the dash out are they going to make more problems than what its worth to replace it.
 

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I just dropped it off this morning, the manager took a peak at it while I was there and he didn't say much, but i will update you when i hear something.

My concern is mine looks really similar to yours. By them pulling the dash out are they going to make more problems than what its worth to replace it.
I understand your concern about opening a can of worms with the dashboard replacement. I wish we could have a third party to fix this issue at a reasonable price. That way I won't want Alfa dealership to replace the whole dashboard
 

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I understand your concern about opening a can of worms with the dashboard replacement. I wish we could have a third party to fix this issue at a reasonable price. That way I won't want Alfa dealership to replace the whole dashboard
Just got a call back from the dealer. He said they would replace my dash which looks just like the pictures above.

I shared my concern about being fine with the way it looks today, but what about in the future? He told me to email alfa and see if they will put a "place holder" in the future for me should the dash get worse that they replace it. Skeptical of that, but worth an email. Will update
 

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Hi Tex,
Thats good news. I am still waiting for the Alfa dealership to call me. Waiting since Monday.
 
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