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Interested to hear if others have had similar opinion of their car AFTER a new stage 1 tune is installed.

I ordered my new stage 1 tune from England Monday morning at 9 am. By 11 am I was receiving delivery status updates from DHL about the stage of delivery my new ECU was in. By Thursday afternoon at 3 PM the ECU was installed (BIG thanks to Rainer for sending old thread with images of the install process which helped significantly with visuals of how to disconnect the electronic bits). It was very easy but the first time you are paranoid that you may damage the connectors and that may not be an easy fix. Great service from Alfa Works cost delivered after all taxes and delivery charges was $1725 Canadian. Many options to consider there is a Toronto based independent tuner whose tune gets to about 280 HP cost is $2000 (before tax) and you have to bring him your ECU so for significantly less you get a second ECU with same specs delivered to your house from Alfa.

Comments after install. There are noticeable differences in the car's performance mainly in in sound and acceleration.

With the original ECU my car supplied a "cacophony of flatulence" particularly when down shifting at high RPM's. It sounded like you do the morning after 8 IPA's and a late night bowl of chili ;) . I should note I have a Capristo exhaust system, which I love. With the new ECU the over all sound is more guttural a lower level growl and the number of pops and bangs (farts) are significantly fewer. You do get 1 when down shifting or up shifting at high RPM's but not 4 or 5 which was the case with my original ECU. Overall I like the new sound significantly more, it is easier on your ears (I have a spider) and on the gear shifts it has a more "refined", very audible, more nasty growl then a higher pitched pop n bang. Just a happy surprise and personal preference.

On acceleration it is better particularly at lower RPM's in first and second gear AND very noticeable in higher RPM's (3500 to 5500) gear 3 4 and 5. I have never driven a car that can go from 100 to 200 KPH so quickly. I have an area near my house that is deserted has very nice road conditions, very straight and is 3.5 KM's long. It is ideal for straight line acceleration shenanigans.

Over all very fair price, great service, very happy with new characteristics of the car and very satisfying experience.

Interested to hear what others think of their vehicle before and after stage 1 tune installation.
 

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You wouldn't want to be anywhere near me after a few milk stouts then.

At least your car can get you away from me much faster now.

Enjoy the new experience!
 

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Your experience is similar to my experience with EuroCompultion's P1 tune. I also went with the second ECU and it's nice having a spare ECU on the shelf. Had I have gone that route with our Giulia, life would have been a lot simpler. As a daily driver, the thing that I really appreciate about my 4C tune is that it drives so much smoother as compared to the stock tune, and provides more power as well.
 

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Your experience is similar to my experience with EuroCompultion's P1 tune. I also went with the second ECU and it's nice having a spare ECU on the shelf. Had I have gone that route with our Giulia, life would have been a lot simpler. As a daily driver, the thing that I really appreciate about my 4C tune is that it drives so much smoother as compared to the stock tune, and provides more power as well.
Actually I omitted one other difference that you touched on Racer Z. The stock tune in dynamic mode had a herky jerky quality when letting off the gas peddle. It seemed to need to be accelerating for the smoothest ride. The stage 1 tune has completely eliminated that sensation and the ride is much smoother, sounds better, and is a bit peppier. I am a fan.
 

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Interested to hear if others have had similar opinion of their car AFTER a new stage 1 tune is installed.

I ordered my new stage 1 tune from England Monday morning at 9 am. By 11 am I was receiving delivery status updates from DHL about the stage of delivery my new ECU was in. By Thursday afternoon at 3 PM the ECU was installed (BIG thanks to Rainer for sending old thread with images of the install process which helped significantly with visuals of how to disconnect the electronic bits). It was very easy but the first time you are paranoid that you may damage the connectors and that may not be an easy fix. Great service from Alfa Works cost delivered after all taxes and delivery charges was $1725 Canadian. Many options to consider there is a Toronto based independent tuner whose tune gets to about 280 HP cost is $2000 (before tax) and you have to bring him your ECU so for significantly less you get a second ECU with same specs delivered to your house from Alfa.

Comments after install. There are noticeable differences in the car's performance mainly in in sound and acceleration.

With the original ECU my car supplied a "cacophony of flatulence" particularly when down shifting at high RPM's. It sounded like you do the morning after 8 IPA's and a late night bowl of chili ;) . I should note I have a Capristo exhaust system, which I love. With the new ECU the over all sound is more guttural a lower level growl and the number of pops and bangs (farts) are significantly fewer. You do get 1 when down shifting or up shifting at high RPM's but not 4 or 5 which was the case with my original ECU. Overall I like the new sound significantly more, it is easier on your ears (I have a spider) and on the gear shifts it has a more "refined", very audible, more nasty growl then a higher pitched pop n bang. Just a happy surprise and personal preference.

On acceleration it is better particularly at lower RPM's in first and second gear AND very noticeable in higher RPM's (3500 to 5500) gear 3 4 and 5. I have never driven a car that can go from 100 to 200 KPH so quickly. I have an area near my house that is deserted has very nice road conditions, very straight and is 3.5 KM's long. It is ideal for straight line acceleration shenanigans.

Over all very fair price, great service, very happy with new characteristics of the car and very satisfying experience.

Interested to hear what others think of their vehicle before and after stage 1 tune installation.
Are you in toronto?

If you are, mind giving me a ride? I am also very interested in getting the ecu but am not really sure since ive never tried one...
 

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Been enjoying mine for 4 years. It is precisely as you say. Love the mid-range shove that keeps on pushing, unlike the original tune that felt like it was running out of breath after the initial surge.
 

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Are you in toronto?

If you are, mind giving me a ride? I am also very interested in getting the ecu but am not really sure since ive never tried one...
No I am 90 minutes away in the Niagara region. I am not a big fan anymore of the big smoke, too busy and hectic. There is a reason I live in the country..... tranquility:love:

If I was coming into town I would not bring the 4C unless there was a specific reason to do so.

If you ever travel to the Niagara region (do some wine tastings) holler back and we will see if we can meet up. Cheers
 

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I’ve heard a few North American region folks comment on the OEM tune having some crackle/pop but I never heard any. Someone even posted a way of getting it but I could replicate it. And I agree with Alfaworks tune being very smooth- but it is the same as OEM in my experience here in AU.

So.. Just wild speculation but I wonder if the OEM tune for NAM region is actually different than AU/UK/EU in a way that causes this. Happy to be shot down, as I said just wild speculation.

Stinger8, kudos on Capristo exhaust, would love to have one!
 

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I’ve heard a few North American region folks comment on the OEM tune having some crackle/pop but I never heard any. Someone even posted a way of getting it but I could replicate it. And I agree with Alfaworks tune being very smooth- but it is the same as OEM in my experience here in AU.

So.. Just wild speculation but I wonder if the OEM tune for NAM region is actually different than AU/UK/EU in a way that causes this. Happy to be shot down, as I said just wild speculation.

Stinger8, kudos on Capristo exhaust, would love to have one!
Regarding the exhaust I bought the car used from a high performance specialist used car dealer. He knows his North American muscle but European not so much (but more than me). I knew I was going to buy this car once I saw it :love: the 4C for first time, live, on his lot (not just internet pictures). We do our walk around, he's doing the used car shtick, and says almost in passing as we go around the back "oh yeah this car also has some fancy shmancy after market exhaust too". He has a coup on the lot with the regular factory exhaust and I like the look of the Capristo significantly over stock but that's all I know at this point. I get the car home and after a bit I go to the Capristo web site and they have this exhaust system "on sale" for $10,000 US!!! WOW with exchange and cost to install it has to be $15K Canadian which is more than 25% of what I paid for the car with 11,000 kms on the clock. Long story short I got really lucky, got a huge bargain (in my opinion) and I do love the sound and look (its surrounded in carbon fiber around pipes and underneath shield). I have never heard the Agropovic and would be very interested to do a side by side exhaust symphony to compare.
 

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I’ve heard a few North American region folks comment on the OEM tune having some crackle/pop but I never heard any. Someone even posted a way of getting it but I could replicate it. And I agree with Alfaworks tune being very smooth- but it is the same as OEM in my experience here in AU.

So.. Just wild speculation but I wonder if the OEM tune for NAM region is actually different than AU/UK/EU in a way that causes this. Happy to be shot down, as I said just wild speculation.

Stinger8, kudos on Capristo exhaust, would love to have one!
Almost certainly, the NAFTA (US/Canada) version of the OEM “tune” will differ from EMEA (Europe, Middle East and Africa) and APAC (Asia Pacific) regions. Regulations regarding emissions and fuel economy drive the differences. California emissions (among the most stringent on the planet), and US fleet fuel economy are drivers for this region. The car seems to be granted some sort of “legal non-conforming” status by Brussels, where only 1,000 copies could be sold annually. Not sure where your part of the planet fits in.
 

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And I agree with Alfaworks tune being very smooth- but it is the same as OEM in my experience here in AU
Do you mean the OEM tune for Australia is the same as Alfaworks tune just in terms of sound, or in terms of the “smooth” aspect of how it drives?
 

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Do you mean the OEM tune for Australia is the same as Alfaworks tune just in terms of sound, or in terms of the “smooth” aspect of how it drives?
He HAS to mean sound. The smoothness and meatiness of the push from the Alfaworks Stage 1 ECU is a step up from standard. The burble can be experienced when, after moving off slowly while the car is still running on cold/rich mixture, you back off while slowing to a halt as you reach your first crossroad. I’ve got a short downhill run from my house to the main road and can get a lovely crackle and burble when getting off the throttle then. Maybe the Quicksilver helps.
 

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I am also happy with the upper end pull from the stage 1 Alfa works tune, but I have noticed I get like a whizzing noise from the car (I presume turbo) that I never had with the standard ECU, I don’t get it all the time but when I do it seems my car is not pulling at full boost!🤔
 

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I am also happy with the upper end pull from the stage 1 Alfa works tune, but I have noticed I get like a whizzing noise from the car (I presume turbo) that I never had with the standard ECU, I don’t get it all the time but when I do it seems my car is not pulling at full boost!🤔
Foot to the floor when this happens, or no?
What does the boost gauge say when this happens?
 

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When decelerating if you don't fully release the gas pedal but push it just a bit the car will sometimes do that crackle/burble whether stock or mod ECM. This is more noticeable when the car is in the cold start cycle. As far as aftermarket ECMs......I am not aware of any tuner doing tunes for different markets since in any case a non OE ECM would not be street legal so no need to have different tunes for different markets.
 
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