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By the way, your bias-T printed circuit board looks pretty well laid out and constructed, probably usable up to around 1 GHz, and with a low price. Where did you find it?
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
Hi,
Specs of this bias tee :
10 - 6000MHz
Max voltage 50V

Search for; “bias tee wideband”
Easy to find the same picture I uploaded in the first post
Via Amazon: $13.89 ex shipment cost
Via Aliexpress: $2.74 ex shipment cost

i bought mine at Aliexpress
 
I'd be remiss if I didn't now raise a small point. Now that the antenna is much improved, and the external pre-amp finally is functional, it can be possible for a strong FM station to overload the external pre-amp, or to overdrive the internal pre-amp of the FM radio itself, causing cross-modulation interference on weaker FM stations, or even outright signal blocking. This would be most noticeable when passing near an FM transmitter station. Has the OP noticed anything like that? Also, how is the AM reception of the radio now? Thanks.
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
Hi,
I did not experience this personally on FM yet
You are correct about the theory of FM reception and modulation(y)
Did not test AM, as this is never listened to anymore in the Netherlands…
 
Late to the scene. I had similar issue with my LE 4C. Stock Parrot Audio system and newly installed Pioneer SPH-10BT had poor radio signals in all but a very few channels. I connected an fm amplifier adapter on Amazon that completely solved the issue. Part was about $11.


All you have to do is connect the antenna cable into extension and the antenna cable fr the amplifier into back of aftermarket / stock radio. Use a Twisty connector or supplied electrical tap from amplifier 12v to switch 12v power cable. Done. Took me 10 minutes.
 
Late to the scene. I had similar issue with my LE 4C. Stock Parrot Audio system and newly installed Pioneer SPH-10BT had poor radio signals in all but a very few channels. I connected an fm amplifier adapter on Amazon that completely solved the issue. Part was about $11.


All you have to do is connect the antenna cable into extension and the antenna cable fr the amplifier into back of aftermarket / stock radio. Use a Twisty connector or supplied electrical tap from amplifier 12v to switch 12v power cable. Done. Took me 10 minutes.
That sounds like a good tip. By the way....welcome to the Forum. I see this is your first post so PLEASE take the time to tell us about your LE 4C. I have the twin of your car and my two neighbors have identical LEs....all three are Rosso Red.....and members of this Forum.

I checked the Amazon reviews....the knocks were that it worked on FM but no improvement on AM and also not on FM HD. What was your experience in AM and FM HD?
 
Late to the scene. I had similar issue with my LE 4C. Stock Parrot Audio system and newly installed Pioneer SPH-10BT had poor radio signals in all but a very few channels. I connected an fm amplifier adapter on Amazon that completely solved the issue. Part was about $11.


All you have to do is connect the antenna cable into extension and the antenna cable fr the amplifier into back of aftermarket / stock radio. Use a Twisty connector or supplied electrical tap from amplifier 12v to switch 12v power cable. Done. Took me 10 minutes.
Photos? …and welcome. What’s your 4C story?
 
Thank you. I have been visiting the forum for quite a few months off and on especially when I was thinking about getting a 4C. I figured I would join and let everyone know of my fix for the radio issues. I really haven't tried AM. FM HD seems better than it was... It still isn't great compared to my other cars. The normal FM is about 100% stronger and clearer than before. I can pick up the same FM channels and same quality as on my Fiat 500L.

Speaking of cars... I have three Italian cars. 2014 Yellow Fiat 500L, 2015 Alfa Romeo 4C LE in Rosso Comp Tricoat, and newly purchased 2017 Fiat 124 Spider Abarth in Red. I purchased the one owner Alfa 4C four months ago and it currently only has 6,245 miles on the odometer. I recently installed red led moonlight bulb, red floor mats, the aftermarket Pioneer radio, and a RaceChip GTS chip. Next up is side window tint and a performance air filter. I love the 4C. It is such a joy. #60 out of 500 LE. Not going to do many mods on the car as it is perfect just the way it is for me and want to keep it close to stock.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
Late to the scene. I had similar issue with my LE 4C. Stock Parrot Audio system and newly installed Pioneer SPH-10BT had poor radio signals in all but a very few channels. I connected an fm amplifier adapter on Amazon that completely solved the issue. Part was about $11.


All you have to do is connect the antenna cable into extension and the antenna cable fr the amplifier into back of aftermarket / stock radio. Use a Twisty connector or supplied electrical tap from amplifier 12v to switch 12v power cable. Done. Took me 10 minutes.
Hi, Yes you are correct this will amplify the signal, but you forget the antenna in this picture...
The crappy front bumper adhesive antenna is sort of OK for strong FM signals
In my case the huge improvement came from adding the custom antenna under the bonnet ;)
 
Hi, Yes you are correct this will amplify the signal, but you forget the antenna in this picture...
The crappy front bumper adhesive antenna is sort of OK for strong FM signals
In my case the huge improvement came from adding the custom antenna under the bonnet ;)
I almost got the one with the adhesive antenna but decided to just connect the little amplifier to the stock antenna. Definitely big improvement.
 
Hi All,
As many other owners I was annoyed by the weak signal of FM radio signal in the 4C

After investigating this issue, the problem is clear, the FM amplifier mounted in the front of the 4C is not supplied with 12Volt by Alfa Romeo.
It seems they have completely forgotten this.
In the front (removing the bonnet) you will find the Fakra cable connected to the amplifier (black block), which is connected to ground (bolted onto the chassis), connected to the adhesive antenna inside the front bumper

When removing the footrest from the passenger floor, the same Fakra connector is found, connected to the antenna cable which leads to the back of the radio

The following conversion steps I made;
  • Disconnect the Fakra connector and the Fakra Radion antenna under the footrest
  • An RF Bias Tee board is to be connected in between these two Fakra connectors
  • The Bias Tee board has SMA screw connectors, so 2 extra cables are needed
  • Bias Tee direction DC+RF towards the amplifier in front of the 4C
  • Fakra A Male to SMA male, RG174 coax cable 15cm
  • Fakra A Female to SMA male, RG174 coax cable 15cm
  • The SMA male connectors are connected tothe Bias Tee board
  • The Bias Tee board is supplied with switched +12V en Ground, these can be found close by
View attachment 130114 View attachment 130115 View attachment 130116
The result of this Bias Tee is that the amplifier in front of the 4C gets +12V
so now it is actually amplifying the FM reception

When i started my Joying radio FM app, I was greatly surprised as many FM channels were now strong
Next test was when I disconnected the FM antenna glued behind the bumper, it made no difference in the FM channels found on my radio...
So I decided to create a new antenna, a small brass rod with an exact length of 70cm (quarter lambda). I mounted this in the middle on top of the plastic housing of the radiator.
The top of the antenna bent so it would not touch the bonnet
Fixed in place with a few tiewraps
View attachment 130117
The antenna bottom is soldered to a wire with an AMP connector, connected to the original amplifier (black wire) of the 4C
View attachment 130119
This new simple antenna doubled the amount of FM stations easily, so decided to keep this antenna instead of the original 4C bumper version.

Costs involved :
Fakra A male to SMA male 15cm RG174; $5
Fakra A male to SMA male 15cm RG174; $5
Bias Tee; $5


As maybe some of you noticed a second Fakra coax connector (Fakra F brown color) is also present under the bonnet and under the passenger footrest (Fakra G grey color).
I start to belive this was intended for DAB+ radio in the 4C
So next I will do is make a connection of this antenna to the glued bumper antenna, connect this to my Joying DAB+ USB dongle (will post this when I have the hardware and results)
I also had poor reception. I bought the board and adapters to connect at the radio Motorola plugs. I tested the connection before feeding 12 volts, reception was great.
Figure that out.
 
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