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Hello!

My name is Hans. I joined this forum as I will soon be seeking a 4C to buy. I will soon be posting my beautiful supercharged Audi RS4 on BaT. Assuming that sale is completed, I will be after a 4C. I haven’t sat in one, let alone driven one. I am hoping to find another member in my area (Cheyenne) that might help me out with that. I know of 2 other 4C’s here. My intention is for this to be a pleasurable canyon carver…not a daily. But also not a concours car—I will drive it a bit. Am open to all input, but ideally would be after a coupe—I am bald and don’t need the sunburns with the spider. I’d be looking for a carbon fiber roof (so 2017 and newer I guess) and Akrapovic. Gialla if possible, although I mostly see that color on the spiders. I also know another member here is selling a CF roof with the mother-of-pearl paint and Akra which I think looks very sharp. Watching that one. Anyway my main concern is being down on power from the 500hp or so I currently enjoy. I know the 4C is FAR lighter than my fat Audi. I occasionally participate in some car rally’s in the mountains and rarely does anything pull away from my RS4…I am slightly worried I may miss that grunt. Otherwise I am a non-conformist auto enthusiast and think the 4C suits me very well. My wife and I enjoyed a 124 spider Abarth for a few years and I feel like the Alfa is a kindred spirit. All the best! —Hans The other interesting cars in the stable…
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I daily a 400whp 340i and the 4C with a tune makes it feel like the beast it was meant to be - day and night difference between the two cars when driving. The 4C taught me that it really isnt about horsepower aslong as the delivery of the power it has is good. It wont be an issue IMO. The only downside of the 4C is that my BMW feels boring to drive now 😂
 
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Welcome!

What a cool part of the world to call home.

You might need to refine your wish list a little, as a giallo coupe with cf roof and Akrapovic exhaust is likely to be the absolute rarest of all N. American 4C's.

However, all colours look great on this car, and there is always a wrap if you really love everything but the colour.

Good luck in your search. And on the sale!
 
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Welcome, Hans! I get sunburn when I only think of sun, and I never liked it when my friend took his roof off in his Boxster. I love the spider, though. I realized that when I prepare with sunscreen, hat, and a light shirt with long sleeves that can be pulled up (or not), it is awesome to have the roof off. I love it so much it that I would never again consider a coupe for a fun car. Too bad that the hat I got is not available.
 
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You will find the 4C has more than enough power to please you....and with a tune it is great. The 4C lightness and raw feeling through manual rack steering, none assisted brakes, and no insulation along with carbon fiber tub makes it really feel special. With some minor upgrades and tweaks it is an excellent car BUT...compared to your Audi....it is not a comfortable "couch" cruiser. You will find it is very engaging and demands a lot out of the driver. The AUDI will probably feel more relaxed on the highways at speed but simple mod will fix that....get a good alignment with the front toe set to 0 and consider a set of Jamies blocks from ALFA Works which increases the caster and has various choices of more negative camber if you prefer. Also...the stock Pirelli PZero tires emphasize tramming so a better set of tires from Michelin or Continental, etc. will make a big improvement. Hopefully, you have some nice curvy roads in your area where the 4C will be in its element....freeway driving is not its best place to be but OK.

I drove out to Casper, Wyoming for the 2017 Solar Eclipse...enjoyed myself there. I live in Michigan. I was not in the 4C as I needed lots of storage space for all my astronomy gear along with my son and astronomy buddy....I had my full size Ford F150 van which is MUCH more comfortable and practical for long distance trips.
 
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Thanks for all the feedback so far! I knew this would be an active forum. I recently got my motorcycle license and have been riding more and more. On the bike, things are really busy and all the senses are heightened. I am really aware of everything because it can all go south really fast. In a way, I am looking for a similar experience in a car. I am definitely NOT looking for a vehicle that removes me totally from my surroundings—I have a diesel Q7 for that. For this place in my garage, quite the opposite. I’ve heard of the tramming, and the unusual brake feel, and bring it on! The RS4 is a brute, and quite serious like most German cars. The 124 Abarth was very playful—we had the manual. I am hoping the 4C slots in somewhere in between.
 
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... I recently got my motorcycle license and have been riding more and more. On the bike, things are really busy and all the senses are heightened. I am really aware of everything because it can all go south really fast. In a way, I am looking for a similar experience in a car. I am definitely NOT looking for a vehicle that removes me totally from my surroundings...
Get a 4C Spider if you want the motorbike feeling on 4 wheels :cool:
That way you can have the yellow 4C you really want
 
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Welcome Hans! The 4C and the RS4 are very different beasts. I have never driven the RS4, but back in the day (mid-2000s) I drove the A4. I LOVED that car, and got really close to buying it. The modern A4's are nothing like that. They have gotten old and fat, IMHO. I have driven, on track, against a modern A4, and it was slow compared to the 4C. The RS4 may have more horse power, but you can't hide the weight when you go around a corner. I think you will need to keep an open mind about the 4C. The 4C is "quick", but it isn't FAST. The 4C is also not designed to go straight, it is meant to change directions QUICK. So if you like going fast straight, then the RS4 will likely be more to your liking. If you want zip around corners and focus on weight transfer to MAKE it go fast, then the 4C is for you.

The 4C is a true sports car, not what passes for a "modern sports car" today. You will have to bend to it, it won't bend to you!! As a result, there are two types of owners that you will find. There are the diehards where the driver meshes completely with the car (Myself, RKBerta, 4Canada, justto name a few), and then the owners that don't really mesh with the car. These owners are the ones that might spend a fortune on the car, and modifications, but end-up selling the car fairly quickly. Drive @Wheelhor's car (and bring him a bottle of his favorite drink), and you will know if the car is really for you. Keep in mind that a few minor (and cheap) tweaks can greatly impact the stability of the car. I know my car dives COMPLETELY different from a stock 4C. This is mostly due to alignments, tires, and suspension changes. I can pound my car on the track and feel very confident, but not as confident with the stock version.
 
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Welcome to the forum Hans,
We don't normally get many people here coming from the Volkswagen/Audi groups - those cars are very dissimilar to the 4C.
I see you have already done a bit of research on your perfect 4C. You might have to let it slide on one or two of those items on your wish-list, but most can be changed after purchase anyway if you can't find one that ticks all of the boxes.
With less than half the BHP of your Audi on tap, the standard powered 4C is not going to be as brutal as your Audi - it doesn't have all wheel drive for a start and nowhere near the level of grip of your Audi. It also won't magically transform into a luxury cruiser when you feel like taking it easy. The standard 4C slows down on the acceleration as you go past 100 mph/160 kph, but that's rarely a problem unless you live in Germany and have the unrestricted autobahn to stretch the legs of your 4C.
What it does have though is a lack of weight (= less inertia) to hold it back and slow it down when changing speed or direction and therefore requires less power and torque to achieve the same result as a heavier, more powerful car. You will love that on those canyon runs. The braking ability of the 4C is its strong point and you will need to recalibrate how late you can leave the braking, and how much speed you can carry through a corner.
The standard 4C has plenty of torque and the short gearing means that the power delivery with the turbo spooled up is plenty for this light car. You will quickly understand why this car only comes with the dual-clutch transmission as you left-foot brake, then bang off the the gear changes one after the other while you accelerate out of a tight corner, or approach a hair-pin bend at very high speed.
The mid-engined nature of the 4C is nowhere near as forgiving as the Audi, so you will need to take some time adapting your driving style - which is best done at the track with some professional instruction.
Seeing as you like your cars to have plenty of performance, you will probably end up going down the tuning route with your own 4C - you will find plenty of good options on this forum that will help you to shrink your bank balance in all areas, from tuning, big turbo's, big exhausts, de-cat's, hi-flow cats, big intercoolers, engine mods, fat sticky tires/tyres, fat wheels, big brakes, LSD's, suspension mods, etc.
In my opinion, the best value performance gains are available for the nut sitting in front of the steering wheel, but each to their own and it's only play money if it's being spent on a 4C.
The standard car is great, but the modified tuned ones are on another level.
Good luck with your search for "The One".
Cheers,
Alf.
 
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Motorcyclists get the 4C....I don't know how many have said that if they were to get a car the 4C would be the one most like their bikes. I came from a Yahaha 350 TZ factory road racer (no longer have though). I agree with those other bikers.
 
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Welcome! You actually just missed one of only...2 in existence, I think, Giallos spec'd like you want, but John4C would know better than me. As 4Canada mentions the Giallo coupes in general are very very rare, so don't wait for one if something turns up that checks all your other boxes.
 
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Greetings again all and happy new year. The RS4 is finally on its way to a new home. Now am getting serious about the 4C purchase. There is high option Giallo spider for sale in Coeur d’Alene, ID that has been on the block for over 120 days. Vin is:

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Anyone know anything about this car? Any chance it belonged to a forum member?
 
#18 ·
Hans/ @QuattroLion , you will love the 4C.

I also happen to come from an Audi history. I had a manual 2008 S4 and then a 2011 Cabrio S5 (which I chose over an RS5). I've also driven the RS4 and RS6.

The 4C, untuned, is not as fast as any of those cars.

But it is more fun.

The car just demands your attention, and rewards you for it. It's louder, more raw, rough and visceral.

It's frankly the opposite of the Audi's (which are composed and planted, always). I love my Audi's, but I really, really love my 4C.

BTW, you might want to go test drive a Giulia Quadrifoglio. It has more power than an RS4, and a lot more soul. It's kind of like a blend of an RS4 and the 4C.